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Netflix has a lot of neat programs and I thought it might be a novel idea to share things we've run across. The platform's programming is so large and diverse that it's quite easy for really good stuff to slip by unnoticed. Hopefully this thread can combat that to a degree.

First up, did you know that Netflix has funded a reboot of Sabrina the Teenage Witch? Anyone remember that show from back in the day? If not here's a reminder.
If you got through the whole clip or only watched the first thirty seconds doesn't really matter as you likely got a feel for the show's overall tone and aesthetic. For one, it's very nineties and for another silly and harmless. It would not be inaccurate to describe it as popcorn television. Therefore, when I head the show was coming back I wasn't terrible enthused.

However, when I watched the teaser and a few other bits it very quickly became apparent that this Sabrina held little resemblance to her mirror world counterpart. Basically, teenage witch but witchcraft as depicted by Christians. How's that look?
Bit like that.
 

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Great thread!

Two things to check out.

The Haunting of Hill House. It's not as good as the 1963 movie version but a hell of a lot better than the 1999 version. To me it started very slowly, but pacing is important for a scary story. It's as obsessed with personal drama as you'd expect from a work in 2018, but it's tolerable.

Norsemen. It's a Norwegian and Netflix comedy, which is recorded simultaneously in two languages. Think of common sitcom issues. And now the characters are Vikings in the 790s. Do eeeeeeeeet.
 

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You guys ever seen the Netflix original movie, Spectral?

Without spoiling too much, basically the bad guys figure out how to weaponize ghosts.
 
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I've seen Norsemen and can't decide if it's utterly brilliant or entirely juvenile which I suspect was the intention.
The Haunting of Hill House. It's not as good as the 1963 movie
Oh, well might just give it a pass as I was burned before...
but a hell of a lot better than the 1999 version
On the other hand that's wonderful news.
It's as obsessed with personal drama as you'd expect from a work in 2018, but it's tolerable.
Ehhh, We all have different thresholds for how much interpersonal drama we can take. Personally, mine is very low. Probably still give it a try at some point.

@Gmutant That sounds interesting. What did you think of it?
 

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I'm up to the last episode (so far) of The Haunting of Hill House.
Never saw earlier versions so can't compare it. It's not bad. I only watch it of a day, as with most of those types of series and movies.

I've a few series and movies on my list. Continuum, The 100, The Cloverfield Paradox, Altered Carbon, Orange is the New Black (that's kind of meh), Lost in Space, that's all I can remember off he top of my head. So many to watch or am watching.

I think it's called The Apostle, that looks interesting. But I said the same about Outlander and didn't like that, thought that was boring.
So many things to watch 😐
 

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I'm really liking A Very Secret Service. 1960s French secret agent absurdist comedy. Be advised it's very dry. It contradicts but also plays off stereotypes of French self-seriousness. You get the vibe of the show in the first scene where Merlaux is asked who the victors of WW2 were and is interrupted before adding anyone beyond France.

Algeria, it's FRANCE!

The Last Kingdom is quite good, but then I'm also a fan of the Bernard Cornwell books. Quite faithful to them, gives a good sense of 9th century Britain. I really like the casting of Alfred and Ragnar Ragnarson, Beorca too. Illustrates legitimately divided views on the Norse: marauding beasts who God really should exterminate if you're English (or Irish, or Scottish, or Welsh, or...), but also wild and free (versus the dour Christians of the story) and often fiercely loyal to friends and family.
 

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Sabrina reboot sounded good until I saw the trailer. Riverdale producers...those people had some of the best material to work with and killed it, like that AIrbender movie that doesn't exist.

Some interesting ones I've seen over the past couple years:
  • Tau (movie) - woman trapped in a fully automated house with a sentient AI and a crazy Steve Jobs/Bill Gates type shut-in.
  • iBoy (movie) - British setting, sci-fi teenagers and it had a charming story; though there is a rape premise in play there (as seen in the Netflix preview, so no spoiler).
  • Let's Be Evil (movie) - augmented reality glasses, gifted children, underground base. What's not to love there?
  • The End of the F***ing World (TV show, 1 season) - sociopathic teen male, apathetic teen female, long internal debate about killing her
  • Extinction (movie) - sci-fi premise about dreaming of an alien invasion as an office worker
  • Everything Sucks (TV show, 1 season) - 90's era high schoolers having high school drama, romantic comedy of sorts
  • Message From The King (movie) - It's like the Taken movie meets Equalizer if that makes sense. I loved the brutality of it
  • Taken (TV show) - great action, name of the show has nothing to do with the movie series and the series could probably be called "Almost Never Taken"...but again, great action.
  • The Little Prince (movie) - cute family movie, girl's entire life is scheduled to the minute and she takes a liking to her elderly neighbor and his story about, you guessed it, The Little Prince
  • The Babysitter (movie) - comedy horror, cultist behavior, idiotic teens... classic for a modern day movie
  • Battle Drone and Kill Command (movies) - sci-fi drone soldiers vs humans with all the bad lines and expectant action that follows these cheesy movies that you'd expect to see on the SyFy network
  • Love (TV show, 3 seasons) - Gus...reminds me of myself, so incredibly awkward and found a weird woman. Though my relationship didn't end the same way.

I've got a long list of others that I just added to my queue as well...which I can post up if someone wants to see that list.
 
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I'm up to the last episode (so far) of The Haunting of Hill House.
Never saw earlier versions so can't compare it. It's not bad. I only watch it of a day, as with most of those types of series and movies.

I've a few series and movies on my list. Continuum, The 100, The Cloverfield Paradox, Altered Carbon, Orange is the New Black (that's kind of meh), Lost in Space, that's all I can remember off he top of my head. So many to watch or am watching.

I think it's called The Apostle, that looks interesting. But I said the same about Outlander and didn't like that, thought that was boring.
So many things to watch 😐
Continuum is great. The overall premise of the main character is almost cliché, but there's so many plot twists and "wait, what?" moments that it just keeps you guessing about everything else.
 

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I've seen Norsemen and can't decide if it's utterly brilliant or entirely juvenile which I suspect was the intention.

Oh, well might just give it a pass as I was burned before...

On the other hand that's wonderful news.

Ehhh, We all have different thresholds for how much interpersonal drama we can take. Personally, mine is very low. Probably still give it a try at some point.

@Gmutant That sounds interesting. What did you think of it?
Worth a watch. It's definitely one of the better Netflix original movies.
 
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Sabrina reboot sounded good until I saw the trailer. Riverdale producers...those people had some of the best material to work with and killed it
Not seen Riverdale, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Hey, maybe they learned from past mistakes.
Worth a watch. It's definitely one of the better Netflix original movies.
I'll check it out.
 

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Not seen Riverdale, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Hey, maybe they learned from past mistakes.
Off-topic Rant:
Archie comics were historically about comedic sketches about high school and fantasy relationships (guy dating multiple girls, girls dating multiple guys, all without sex involvement). Riverdale goes into a dark and gritty murder investigation at the start from what I've seen and heard. It was a premise more suited to The Hardy Boys than Archie comics. That's my beef with it.

The Sabrina reboot trailer seems to be taking a similar spin from quirky, comedy comics and original TV show side to dark and gritty witches displaying cult-like behavior and she must choose between good and evil. It's a bit like kicking Sabrina/Archie were teenagers that are getting kicked out into the street in an extreme maturity age-up of the franchise. Kind of like if this skit was the real update to Bert and Ernie...


On topic:
These are the shows/movies that I found interesting in my Netflix search for new stuff
  1. Re:Mind
  2. The Chalet
  3. Requiem
  4. The Forest
  5. Ghoul
  6. Kuntilanak
  7. Errementari: the blacksmith and the devil
  8. Room
  9. The Lodgers
  10. Illfang The Wolf Brigade
  11. The Night Comes For Us
  12. American Vandal
  13. Animal World
  14. Anon
  15. Prodigy
  16. Erased
  17. The Call Up
  18. You Get Me
  19. The Rover
  20. The Warning
  21. The Motive
  22. The Frozen Dead
  23. Ultraviolet
 

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Off-topic Rant:
Archie comics were historically about comedic sketches about high school and fantasy relationships (guy dating multiple girls, girls dating multiple guys, all without sex involvement). Riverdale goes into a dark and gritty murder investigation at the start from what I've seen and heard. It was a premise more suited to The Hardy Boys than Archie comics. That's my beef with it.
Is that not bizarre? How on Earth do you say "I've got this great idea for a nasty teens and murder show, better attach the Archie brand to it," or alternately "those Riverdale kids are fun, they just need more killing"?

To be fair, I routinely hate the damn-you-me-lad indifference media companies and "creatives" apply to history or canon (have you heard about how in "Lincoln" they made Connecticut's representatives vote against the 13th Amendment even though they voted for it in reality, and told CT to get bent when they complained because... DRAMA! Then there's my 3 hour interpretive dance piece summarizing my feelings on Abrams Trek). The overwhelming disrespect, entitlement, make me crazy. But the Archie thing... I don't even have words. I'm not so much offended as baffled.

The really crazy part is that, while I never like Archie, my kids were into the comics. I was always surprised by that, felt like a callback to the 60s or something. Then one day I walk in and one of them's watching the show. I got to see a hot teacher flirt with a student and then get murdered in the 2 minutes I watched. Apparently my kid aged right into the rebranding.
 

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Avoid the Netflix original "Empire Games".

I do not know how this made it past the executives.

The history is abysmal. In the first episode, they don't know the difference between Julius Caesar and Augustus and Tiberius. I skipped to the China episode... QIN AND QING ARE DIFFERENT DYNASTIES. Skipped to the Aztec episode... THE INCA, MAYA, AND MEXICA ARE DIFFERENT CULTURES, AND EVEN MORE SO THEY'RE UMBRELLAS WHICH ENCOMPASS MANY STATES. Oh god.

The editing is the worst I've ever seen. They take clips from old documentaries whose copyright has expired and images from free use archives, mash them together, with a boring narrator who makes no effort to properly pronounce his material. Half of the time, the images or clips have literally nothing to do with the material, and another big chunk are incorrect (ie: Mayan temples when talking about the Aztec). Then the narrator talks over the talking heads, some of which are actual experts, and their translators, at the same time.

My eyes are bleeding.
 

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Avoid the Netflix original "Empire Games".

I do not know how this made it past the executives.

The history is abysmal.
You know how I know that this is all on-point criticism? Because Dhamp works in a museum and knows where all the bodies are buried (or were un-buried, as it were). I tried to flick around in the China episode... the woman with the lisp hurts my ears (not for the lisp, I don't mind that) because for someone in a "research society", her pronunciations are as bad as an average American off the street. The interpreter/German man sounded informed at least.

The Qin and Qing thing did get to me too... I have little interest in European/Americas history since it was pushed so hard in middle school and high school as the only history worth learning. So Chinese and Japanese history are what get me excited...and that was such a poor display of history. It actually reminded me of some Grade C and D high school papers that I graded once when volunteering as a teacher's aide over the summer...
 

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You know how I know that this is all on-point criticism? Because Dhamp works in a museum and knows where all the bodies are buried (or were un-buried, as it were). I tried to flick around in the China episode... the woman with the lisp hurts my ears (not for the lisp, I don't mind that) because for someone in a "research society", her pronunciations are as bad as an average American off the street. The interpreter/German man sounded informed at least.

The Qin and Qing thing did get to me too... I have little interest in European/Americas history since it was pushed so hard in middle school and high school as the only history worth learning. So Chinese and Japanese history are what get me excited...and that was such a poor display of history. It actually reminded me of some Grade C and D high school papers that I graded once when volunteering as a teacher's aide over the summer...
I googled some of the talking heads, and they appeared to be qualified. But I didn't look at them all. But I doubt the show runners paid attention even to those who are.
 

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Some pretty good titles that I've come across recently:
  1. Remember (2015) - "With help from a fellow Holocaust survivor, a widower (Christopher Plummer) who struggles with memory loss embarks on a cross-country odyssey to find the former Nazi responsible for the deaths of their family members."
  2. Babylon Berlin (1 season, 16 episodes, 2017) - "Takes place in 1920s Germany as the Weimar Republic attempts to remain stable amongst the competing influences of socialists, monarchists, and numerous other parties... Follows a police inspector from Cologne and a young stenotypist as they navigate the changes to German society." I got a very The Great Gatsby vibe from the series and its emphasis on the rot in society amidst the excesses of the prosperous.
  3. Mr. Holmes (2015) - "Follows an elderly and long-retired Sherlock Holmes (Ian McKellen) at the end of his life. The distinguished detective grapples with an unreliable memory and must rely on his housekeeper's son as he revisits the still-unsolved case that led to his retirement." This movie is a little bit heartbreaking for me. I was raised watching Jeremy Brett's performance of Sherlock and he has been one of my favourite character's ever since. To go from reading Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's works to seeing an "end" to the character was hard to see.
  4. Marvels' The Punisher (1 season, 13 episodes, 2017) - "After exacting revenge on the people responsible for the deaths of his wife and children, Frank Castle uncovers a conspiracy that runs deeper than New York's criminal underworld." Not the most original premise, but of all the Marvel TV series, this one is probably my favourite.
 

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I finished The Haunting of Hill House. Now I'm watching Altered Carbon. It's interesting and kinda depressing. I hope we don't go that way tech-wise. I'm only on the 3rd episode so am not far in.
 
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This sounds especially good, I'll check it out for sure.
Now I'm watching Altered Carbon. It's interesting and kinda depressing.
A wonderful show, stick with it and you'll not be disappointed.
I hope we don't go that way tech-wise.
It does have all sorts of unnerving implications, several of which the show deals with directly.

As for Sabrina, I've now watched two episodes and declare it alright. The trailer linked above is a bit misleading, thus far as the show leans closer to horror and suspense rather than goofiness. The acting's decent and the scripts don't have me grinding my teeth at plot forced contrivance too much. Of course there's still plenty of time for all the dumb stuff to pop up, but for now I'll remain pleasantry entertained.
 
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Anybody seen the Castlevania anime on Netflix? If you haven't, definitely give it a watch, because the producer of the show just announced that they've secured the rights to produce a Devil May Cry anime that will be in the same universe as Castlevania.


 
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